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It's easy to see that a Law degree should be required to practice law or work in an organization as general counsel. It's easy to understand that a Civil Engineer degree should be required for positio
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Degree Requirement
posted at 6/10/2009 12:47 PM EDT
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Minimum Qualifications ("MQs") should be validated by your job analysis!!!
You can utilize the Uniform Guidelines as an example even for private employers. Validation can be a defense to discrimination claims, even if adverse impact results. |
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Degree Requirement
posted at 6/14/2009 4:06 PM EDT
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Excellent points everyone!
And ombuds makes a great point. Too often someone just throws on a requirement for a BA without any particular reason. A degree needs to be relevant to performing the job, period. |
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Degree Requirement
posted at 8/1/2009 8:09 AM EDT
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I do not work in HR but I am considering a change in career. I need help from those who know. I am 45 with a bachelors in Human Services. I worked twenty years in healthcare in medical staff/quality mgt. This included case review, recruiting doctors, the H.R. of medical staff and a lot of regulatory compliance. I also worked Hospice as Mgr. of volunteer/marketing dept. This entailed recruiting volunteers and compliance for dept that was about to loose it's nonprofit status. I since have moved into education for corrections. I run a program (contracted through school district) for life skills for prisoners released from prison and need to improve behavioral skills. The program is 6hr 5 days a week. I work with highest offenders that cannot go into comm progs. due to threat level. I am in a dead end field both in education since it is mostly k-12 and that is not what i want to teach, healthcare which is dominated by nursing and corrections is dominated by law enforcement officers. Unless I want to join "their ranks" I have to make a move fast. I am considering H.R. due to my regulatory compliance background, my teaching/training experience and my degree in human services that focused a lot on psychology and case mgt. I am not sure if I need to get a masters in H.R. (which boxes me in on H.R.) or if I can get a H.R. certificate and that will suffice to get me in the door in the arena of employee relations/arbitration. I would like to get my certification in mediation and use for H.R. Am I on the right track? What do you think as someone from the H.R. arena should I pursue if interested in employee relations/training development/mediation/labor relations. Do they all fall under the same umbrella. What do I need and based on what you know of my background what would you suggest? I am told that you have to start at the bottom in H.R. and my skills are not transferable. As a manager I never believe that for any employee. What do you think? |
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Degree Requirement
posted at 8/3/2009 5:13 AM EDT
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Telmesumthng wrote, "I am told that you have to start at the bottom in H.R. and my skills are not transferable. As a manager I never believe that for any employee."
For whatever it's worth, HR is more who you know than what you know. But that is another whole topic of discussion... I have a master of science degree in education and I work in HR as a Director. Considering your background, years ago, with your experience, you had a better chance to get an HR job than a person with a degree in HR. Others can comment on today's market, but I think you need to start looking. There's an employer out there who is willing to give you a chance. Most of us on this thread will encourage you to network (who you know) with folks in HR. The following is probably not a good example, but you need to network. For example, I wanted to join the local HR group, but in order to join you needed a job in HR. Employers, however, wanted you to be in the local HR group. Go figure! Look for once a week breakfast meetings of HR professionals. In other words, prepare for rejection, a lot of rejection. Persist in the face of rejection. I really think that's the way in these days. Moreover, there's all kinds of HR jobs from the Microsoft (mega companies) types to the employers that have only one person in the office handling mostly payroll. I think your skills are transferable. I have taken two 90 hour mediation courses, one focusing on community mediation, the other focused on workplace mediation. It's always good to have stuff like that in your toolbox. I have certification as a PHR. It's another tool that will help you compete. It's great to have certification if you're looking at an employer who cares about it. Usually it's in the job posting. There's just a bunch of competition out there. That could be why the bottom is touted as the place to start. Adding a degree to your toolbox makes you more competitive. On the other hand, your background fits. You appear willing. Prepare for a lot of rejection, but persistence will pay off. Echo, echo... TCSquared |
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