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One of our partners relented to a request by our office staff to change our dress code from "business casual" dress to blue jeans, t-shirts, etc. I may be in the minority here, but I did not hire in t
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posted at 7/7/2009 6:03 AM EDT
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One of our partners relented to a request by our office staff to change our dress code from "business casual" dress to blue jeans, t-shirts, etc. I may be in the minority here, but I did not hire in to work at a place where everyone looks like they work at a car wash. However, I must admit that our own performance metrics do not appear to be influenced by this issue.
Are there any studies one way or the other that address dress and performance? I may have to modify my own personal bias.
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posted at 7/7/2009 7:41 AM EDT
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There are lots of studies from both sides. You could find something both to support and to defeat your perspective.
If it is not having direct or indirect negative consequences and possibly direct or indirect positive consequences, I would say it is time change your perspective.
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posted at 7/7/2009 8:13 AM EDT
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Many of us heard similar comments when companies started moving from the formal jacket and tie/dress to business casual. Then from business casual to something less formal than business casual. Depending on your industry, jeans and tee's are de rigeur in many engineering organizations (jeans are actually an upgrade in software companies).
Stand by. In a few more years it might be flip flops and undies.
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posted at 7/7/2009 8:37 AM EDT
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and then possibly clothing optional........... oh my!
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posted at 7/7/2009 8:56 AM EDT
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This topic and forum for the most part typifies why HR is dying. Do a quick scan of the topics that HR professionals are focused upon.Guys let's get are attention away from the petty policies and procedures to the real business priorities.
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posted at 7/7/2009 9:22 AM EDT
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"are" attention in HR spans the gauntlet of everything from recruiting employees to procuring benefits to deciding pay ranges to writing corporate policies. We really didn't need a slap on the wrist for adding a little humor into "our" postings.
I suspect if you saw the resumes of most who post here, you would see that we do have "real business priorities" and sometimes what you think is lacking in meaning does really make a difference to the bottom line. Or is important to the business that is asking the question.
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posted at 7/7/2009 9:27 AM EDT
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Questions on these forums tend to range from the complex to HR 101 (lesson 1). Nearly all are deserving of answers. This question certainly had a legitimate purpose and it's a question I've heard asked more than once in nearly 30 years of HR experience.
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posted at 7/8/2009 4:05 AM EDT
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It is a "real business priority" for an HR professional to understand a particular organization's corporate culture and to understand how elements within that culture impact the work environment and work performance. From that perspective, a discussion about acceptable attire is not in the least bit petty.
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posted at 7/8/2009 8:40 AM EDT
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I respectfully disagree.Your answers certainly illustrate that you don't get it. Do a quick scan of the topics on these forums to get a flavor of the low-level transactional issues. Of course, these meat and potato issues must be dealt with successfully by the business. It is or should be a given that HR Professionals are competent in dealing with such questions. If the "field", and I use that term loosely, wants to be respected and get the seat at the table, the bar must be raised. Hire better people with equally strong business and HR skills.
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posted at 7/8/2009 8:51 AM EDT
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I don't claim to have a seat at the table. That said, I would think that it would be too hard to address high-level, strategic issues in a forum like this. This is exactly the type of forum, however, that is perfect for transactional questions/answers.
I'm curious...what's wrong with not being a high-level, seat-at-the table HR person? It would seem that some believe being a solid mid-level HR person is unacceptable in some way. We can't all have a seat at the table. Just the very top if they're good and work for an enlightened company will ever get there.
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