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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 7/18/2009 2:07 AM EDT
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door with others asking for the same thing? If I am hiring and the best candidate is accustomed to a 4/10 schedule and asks for one, and I really want to hire this candidate but it's a bit of a sticking point with the candidate, what do I do?
What are the downsides to offering Compressed Work Weeks from a coverage perspective and how it might effect the morale of other employess without a compressed work week? |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 7/18/2009 5:11 PM EDT
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If you want to, yes you can allow it for one employee but not others. I suspect that yes, you will get other requests and are smart to think ahead of them.
However, I would be less likely to do this for a new employee than one that I had worked with, seen their work ethic, etc. One that had already proved themselves. And think about whether there will be others there during those 10 hours -- will it be safe? Are support staff needed during those full 10 hours? Or the others they have to interact with? I would be more likely to propose a standard 5/40 for the first 90 days and then reconsider it at that point. Or consider a 9/80 over two weeks. Then I would setup a standard policy on how it is requested, approved, reviewed and administered. For example, how are you going to handle holidays? Will they get paid for 8 or 10 hours? Will they be expected to makeup the extra two hours? if they are already working 10 hour days, will they have 2 extra hours to give? It's kind of the same situation as allowing specific employees to work from home. This works for some job positions but not all and some employees but not all. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 7/19/2009 12:02 PM EDT
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I also advise caution about starting this practice.
Existing employees are going to wonder what is so special about this person. Does that make them less special? Think about all those fun conversations. It is unusual for an employee to work without the support of others or without supporting others. So for 2 hours each day and 8 hours once a week, that will not be happening. What other accomodations will happen around that work schedule? We accomodated a special schedule for a person that was highly placed. The lack of availability was a severe problem for us. That's not to say it cannot be successful, but everyone associated with the position will be impacted in one way or another. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 7/19/2009 2:29 PM EDT
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Thanks Rupert and Marc.
Marc, you wrote: /> It is unusual for an employee to work /> without the support of others or without /> supporting others. So for 2 hours each day /> and 8 hours once a week, that will not be /> happening. What other accomodations will /> happen around that work schedule? You may be right about the 8 hours once a week, but in a situation where we already have flexible daily start / end work times built around Core Hours, a 4/10 seems like it could be a benefit in having additional coverage with 10 hour days. Absolutely, I agree that whether or not a compressed work week "works" depends on the nature of the individual business--e.g. is there a business need that can be met through the 4/10 (e.g. are additional, extended hours coverage beneficial to the business). A lot depends on when the employee would begin and end the 10 hour work day. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 5:50 AM EDT
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My company is in the manufacturing business and we have several different shifts that are built to make the work flow. We have 4/40, and 3/36 weekend shift (paid for 40). We also have a second & third shift. There are lots of employees on the 5/40 and would love to be on the weekend shift but the job it is the business we are accomodating not the employees.
Employees are very valuable because we all forget without them we are nothing. I would be very hesitant to bring someone in on a 4/40 if the position didn't warrant it. It also depends on your business and the position you are hiring for. Without all the information this is the best advice I could give. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 6:29 AM EDT
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You really need to step back and weigh the pluses with the potential minuses!
First, are you violating any wage & hour issues? Is this an expemt position - if yes, why wouldn't it be a good idea for others in the organization? Who covers the position on the fifth day? Step back, and think outdise the box before committing this schedule to a newcomer, since this essentially, becomes a contractural agreement - if you fail to insert the phrase that the schedule could change in the future, depending on company need. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 7:48 AM EDT
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I think this is an interesting discussion topic. I would encourage you to think about what circumstances might cause you to recind the ability to work 4/10s? What is you stance on working remotely?
I have worked remotely, alternative shifts, etc over 15 years and always considered it a priveledge and not a right. I recently changed jobs to a company that allows flex hours around a core set of hours, but not 4/10 and not remote work, but they did in the past. There is a significant morale and employee engagement issue related to the removing the flexibility. I think it is similar to signing a pre-nup, you don't want to go in thinking it will end up negative, but you are much wiser if you do. Good luck! |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 10:46 AM EDT
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Take a look at the job the person requesting the 4/10 schedule does. Is it unique, and can be performed as well or better on a 4/10 schedule? (maybe staying open later might be an advantage to customers in different time zones.) Its not uncommon for people with different duties to work different schedules. If however s/he is doing the same job as others and there is no clear business reason for the different schedule, then youll have a tough time justifying it to others. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 11:39 AM EDT
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Is there a particular reason why the flex schedule can not work for others? Why try to justify the schedule for only this individual if the opportunity can benefit your whole team? There is no reason to run from progressive work practices if you can push the business forward. |
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If I grant a 4/10 schedule to one employee, will I have a line outside my door?
posted at 8/4/2009 12:17 PM EDT
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I'm always more than a bit leery of precedents, especially those which could be seen as perqs. Do it for one, you better be able to make the case for doing for all or have a damned good reason why not. |
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