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Many employees are now earning MBA's through on-line programs. Does HR consider these programs as credible as traditional MBA programs? Which schools offer best on-line programs? Any thoughts concerni
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On-line MBA programs

posted at 9/26/2003 10:20 AM EDT
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Oh, and a quick reply to Bob...

I appreciate your comment about learning to work face to face with people. I actually am in a management position now, but I got here due to my ability to work with people as well as systems, and my analytical, problem solving/troubleshooting abilities, among other things. The trouble is, I got here on my merits, not a degree, and I'm afraid that if I wish to find other employment, I won't be able to find a comparable position without the sheepskin. For me, that's really the issue.

Thanks again!
Detta

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posted at 9/28/2003 11:45 AM EDT
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I believe that automatically discounting the place or institution where an individual seeks knowledge is arrogance. In my field,I interact with attorneys and claims professionals. I find little difference in the level of their expertise of a yale graduate and a University of florida graduate beyond their own self-perceptions. What I do find is that experience plays a significant role in an individuals skill level. I am completing my degree at the University of Phoenix; I find the work challenging and the information useful. The amount of research and writing required has taught me the true meaning of time management. The courses Ive taken toward my bachelors in business management have revealed my strengths as well as weaknesses in a positive learning environment. The university requires that students work in team and I attend class weekly. I had to go back to school to get a degree because the fact that that I am skilled in the area of Insurance, claims, and management means nothing in todays job market where it it appears that we have learned the cost of every thing and the value of nothing. However, I do agree that it cost to much.

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posted at 9/28/2003 1:59 PM EDT
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If you want to believe that a master's degree from University of Phoenix is equivalent to a masters degree from an Ivy League school or any major state university, you are welcome to do so. Justified arrogance or not, be advised that executive recruiters from the major firms will substantially discount the Univ of Phoenix degree or degrees from similar institutions.

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posted at 9/30/2003 5:00 AM EDT
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This message is in reply to Nork.

You are basically the only "executive recruiter" that maybe feels this way. Because I'm a recruiter and all the ones I've spoken to have a totally different outlook on this. So to everyone out there that is pursuing an on-line degree, whether from U of PHX or another university, congratulations for pursuing your degree. It will definitely pay off, cause it has for me and I have a MASTERS DEGREE from U of Phx! The university sents out a monthly magazine and in that magazine it list all the accomplishments of graduates from the university. There are students from all over the world and on-line pursuing there university. I know for a fact that everyone that I graduated have been promoted or obtained the job that they wanted due to the continuing education. Yes, it is expensive but convenience cost not matter where you go.

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posted at 10/1/2003 5:05 AM EDT
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This comment goes to Nork 3..
Do you only consider University of P not equivalent to traditional degree?...Or other colleges as well...What about SUNY college offering online programs...?..What do you have to say about that?....

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posted at 10/1/2003 5:57 AM EDT
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No problem with online programs whatsoever. It's the degree granting institution that begs questioning, not the method of education delivery. The reality is that we now have a very powerful new communications tool in the Internet that can make high quality education available just as it's made huge amounts of goods and services available to the remotest of towns.

Traditional universities have been a bit behind the power curve when it comes to online eduction; however, there are a number of quality institutions which are fully accredited that are now offering them. A couple that come to mind are Colorado State and Indiana U (the latter offering one of the best MBA programs in the country). I don't know for sure, but I would expect the quality of the online education programs offered by such institutions to be the equivalent of the traditionally delivered programs offered by these same universities. Had I not gotten my MBA (long) before the advent of the Internet, I would likely have opted for one of the online programs from these schools.

There are essentially two types of MBA programs. One, and perhaps the more common, prepares students for management roles with the expectation that they'll be executing strategies rather than developing them. The second type focuses on training students in analysis of complex environment assessment and providing them with the ability to develop long term strategies.

IMO, Phoenix does a generally decent job of providing technical management proficiency in a certain area. Their online delivery technology is likely more advanced since there's the profit motive involved with Phoenix. There are, however, many traditional programs at state universities that do the same thing for equal effort, less cost and with full accreditation.

What Phoenix will not do (and neither will many of the lesser known MBA programs, for that matter) is prepare students for executive level positions dealing with strategy as opposed to simply execution. That's the speciality and distinction of the MBA programs offered by the top B-schools and one of the reasons why they're heavily recruited by the top firms (GE, Honeywell, etc) and the top consulting firms (McKinsey, Bain and BCG).

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posted at 10/4/2003 8:10 AM EDT
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Teresa, if you're considering On-line vs full-resident graduate programs, I recommend that you also consider why you want to get an MBA. If you're interested in just expanding your personal knowledge in business and can afford on-line education, getting an MBA on-line won't be a bad investment. If you're more interested in your future career in business, or advancing in your position, I recommend pursuing an MBA program at a college, or university. It doesn't have to be from an Ivy leaque institution, or from one of the top 4 universities with the highest rating in their business programs. In fact, some small universities like Rice University in Texas offers good business programs and it's rated as one of the best deals in regards to cost. Good luck in your future.

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posted at 10/9/2003 1:46 AM EDT
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I work in an environment where most of the managers have MBA degrees from Park College and Webster. Usually, they obtain their degrees within one year. I completed my MPA degree from a top 20 business school (Forbes rating) and it took me three years to get it. My observation is that the one year graduates are terrible managers and seem to have whizzed past the courses without learning how to manage. It is often comical to see the process and results. Organizations should be valuing what the individual learned and is capable of doing versus filling in a square. Maybe our society is too preoccuppied trying to make ourselves look good instead of bringing the best to the table.

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posted at 10/9/2003 2:04 AM EDT
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Interesting discussion. I am currently enrolled in a PhD program online with NCU (Northcentral University) pursuing a Business Administration degree in International Business. NCU is (as of April, I think) fully accredited by the regional accrediting association in their area. I got my BA and MA in traditional classroom settings, but as I am now full time working I couldn't take time to go back for a doctorate, so I examined a number of the doctoral programs and found only two of the current options have fully accredited programs (NCU and Capella). I would never even consider a non-accredited program, as it has no value in some settings. I eventually want to teach at UNC-Charlotte, God willing, and a non-accredited degree is not useful in pursing that goal. Something more to think about.

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posted at 10/9/2003 2:15 AM EDT
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I am very disappointed in the recruiter that doesn't allow on line degree holders to pass his/her desk. I have taken the traditional master's program and now am completing my master's through Capella. In my opinion the on line class is much more challenging. In the traditional classroom learners are able to sit back and not respond. The on line classroom does not allow this. There are required reading, postings, and interactions between learners and professors. All classes have a final project that includes a 15-page paper that adheres to APA format.

The on line classroom allows people from different walks of life to come together and learn from each other. The professors are from all over the US and bring a wealth of knowledge.

Personally I think an on line degree is just as credible as a traditional degree. This is after all 2003.
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