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Many employees are now earning MBA's through on-line programs. Does HR consider these programs as credible as traditional MBA programs? Which schools offer best on-line programs? Any thoughts concerni
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posted at 10/16/2003 7:16 AM EDT
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UoP may have North Central accreditation, but that may or may not extend to the MBA program.

Found this list of online MBA programs on a Business Week site: http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/02/distance.htm

Excellent overview of the various MBA programs offered. I was surprised by the number as well as quality of some of the universities represented such as University of Massachusetts, Indiana Univ, Colorado State University, etc. And yes, UofP is listed although personally I'd rather have UMass or Indiana U on my resume than Phoenix.

This list will undoubtedly grow over time.

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posted at 10/18/2003 4:50 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link, Nork3.

As it appears accreditation is the issue, I believe I shall do some research and educate myself as to the accrediting institutions and exactly which ones do accredit U of P and which ones don't and why. If you have any quick links you can provide to that end, I would be most grateful. I appreciate your candid remarks. They certainly have given me pause!

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posted at 10/31/2003 9:02 PM EDT
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On 2003-09-24 07:43, BobGately wrote:
I completed an Executive MBA program and I can't image how hard it would be to do it on-line. Much of the learning is done in the classroom and in study groups with other students. Managers need to learn how to work with others face-to-face more so than in an on-line environment. Just a quick thought for you.

Bob
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posted at 11/11/2003 9:40 AM EST
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Just for clarification the University of Phoenix is fully, regionally accredited and could not use the .edu designation if it wasn't. "The University of Phoenix began in 1976 and was accredited by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools in 1978. The University of Phoenix Online, founded in 1989, was among the first accredited universities to provide college degree programs over the Internet. University of Phoenix Online is now the nations leading online university."(UOP Online Website)

Only "regionally accredited" institutions are currently eligible to receive .edu names. It has been proposed that this restriction be revised to include all post-secondary institutions that are institutionally accredited by an accrediting agency appearing on the U.S. Department of Education's list of "Nationally Recognized Accrediting Agencies." (Educause)

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posted at 11/11/2003 12:11 PM EST
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Tracey:

Thank you for your response. It's good to hear from someone from University of Phoenix on this subject.

One area of disagreement, however. There was a brief period of time when the ".edu" tag could be, and was, claimed by non-accredited institutions. Kennedy-Western University, a non-accredited online institution, still uses the www.kw.edu email address. .edu is no guarantee that the institution has regional accreditation

Carl

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posted at 12/16/2003 8:42 AM EST
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I have real issues with any school that is not fully accredited. A given school may provide an education superior to that of an "Ivy League" school, but the fact that it isn't fully accredited will always leave it's degree in a questionable light. What's of even greater concern is the fact that a graduate of a school not fully accredited may have difficulty going on to a higher degree at a fully accredited school because the latter may not accept all of the credits of the partially accredited school. The student could end up having to repeat many classes at substantial expense.

However, e-degree, traditional degree, or whatever, I judge an applicant by his/her overall qualifications. What irks me the most is when I see the written work of an applicant (or employee) who has an advanced degree and whose grammar and spelling are that of a sixth grader. That individual usually doesn't survive long in my organization.

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posted at 12/18/2003 12:52 PM EST
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This has been a very long thread and I decided to finally jump in. Accreditation, regional or otherwise, doesn't tell the whole story.

I recall fellow workers a few years back that were enrolled in one of the online Bachelor degree programs. Each course lasted only five weeks. Although intensive, I question the lasting value of this type of curriculum that is crammed into such a short period of time. They didn't have to take any exams in the classes they took; it was just research papers and other work. Yet, this school and others share regional accreditation. Some of those people were great leaders and managers; others weren't.

Conversely, I have interviewed and worked with many who graduated from our nation's top schools. Some of those couldn't find their backends using both hands and a roadmap.

Years ago, it used to be easy to distinguish from an HR perspective. Is the institution accredited (regionally) or not? Many recruiters kept these books at arms length. Technology has changed that a tad and the gray areas have enlargened.

These days, if you are concerned about educational qualifications, you have to do a little more homework and decide how a particular applicant's education might meet your organization's needs.

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posted at 12/24/2003 1:08 AM EST
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What a fascinating thread ... 3 quick observations please ...
there was none more emphatic in defence of U of P than the the graduates of same .... hmmm protecting the large investment?
Nork3 ... your objective persistence reflects well on your obviously well heeled education/ qualifications. Point made.
UteL ... bravo ... sixth grade spelling and grammar is always a dead give-away, isn't it.

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posted at 11/25/2005 11:17 AM EST
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This is an interesting thread. I found it through a search for DeVry MBA. I have one. It helped me get re-hired at a company (Fortune 500) that laid me off in late 2001. I obtained the degree while scrapping at temporary jobs and looking for work. When I enrolled it was not yet a part of DeVry. I seriously thought about dropping out simply for the fact that the business school (Keller) eventually merged with DeVry in 2002 when I was almost through.

I believe that my resume as a whole has been enhanced by DeVry, mainly because of "MBA." I agree with one of the posts that recruiters make initial cuts at whether or not there's a degree, then only after that do they look at reputation of institution. After initial cuts, I think it comes down to resumes (persons) as a whole.

Differentiating between online or not seems to mis-aim, because someone with a degree from Dartmouth is going to look more appealing than one with a degree from a school not in the top 20, which may or may not offer classes online. What I'm trying to point out here is that degree granters online are not invalid, though they might be considered lower or 3rd tier compared to 1st tier Ivy League.

Some granters offer a mix of online and classroom (like DeVry and others). The degree on paper does not disclose anything about the Internet.

My points are these: (1) an MBA is a pretty good thing as long as the institution is an accredited university (usually regional accreditation) and its awful reputation can be offset by other accomplishments on the resume.

(2) I did not see anyone mention the vast gulf between AACSB business schools and non-AACSB. In my research, there is not one online school that is AACSB accredited. That is a very important distinction among b-schools. As important as the ABA for law schools.

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posted at 11/25/2005 11:46 AM EST
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Just for clarification, "fully accredited" is not the same as "regionally accredited," though regional accreditation is a high distinction. States also have their own accrediting bodies.

Regional accreditation distinguishes a school from an online college or institute start-up from somebody's parent's basement. It does more than that, of course. It is a good thing to look for in a degree granter.

Accreditation for top business schools is from the AACSB. This, in my opinion, would make a business school "fully accredited."

I thought it remarkable about four years ago, when I was on the phone with a sales associate of a well-known online university who when asked about AACSB, responded, "What's that?"

http://www.aacsb.edu/
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