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i have an employee who just booked a trip to Europe for 13 days, however he only has 5 days of vacation time left. He is full time and paid hourly. He was so excited when he was telling me about his t
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posted at 4/24/2010 4:09 PM EDT
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i have an employee who just booked a trip to Europe for 13 days, however he only has 5 days of vacation time left. He is full time and paid hourly. He was so excited when he was telling me about his trip, I had to stop him and ask if he had requested the time off yet, because I hadn't seen a request. We are small and we usually don't let more than 1 employee off at a time, and our policy is that vacation must be requested. I post memo's twice a year telling our employees not to make their plans before they buys their tickets. Of course we all know, "it is easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask permission". Had he asked in advance we would have denied that amount of time off. Also someone else is already scheduled off during that time, and we our busy now. Any suggestions? |
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posted at 4/24/2010 5:50 PM EDT
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You would be well within your rights as an employer to deny the employee the time off. Whether you should or not is up to you.
Try asking the employee to put in a vacation request for another time and changing his reservations. |
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posted at 4/27/2010 1:08 PM EDT
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Does your policy describe any consequences to not adhering to the practice? Can you point out to him where it says on paper that because he did not follow guidelines, he is not eligible for ________, or that he will be docked ________?
Somehow I think he will not like the idea of changing his reservations. |
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posted at 4/27/2010 1:17 PM EDT
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Agree with nork that you would be well within your rights to refuse the timeoff. If he goes on this trip instead of working, it will be considered voluntary job abandonment.
I don't tend to be lenient on things like this...where the employee knew in advance of the 'need' (although this sounds like a want) and didn't follow policy. Especially with the fact that someone else is already out. At the very least, I would document and discipline. Probably with at least an extra weeks unpaid suspension (after the unpaid vacation week). |
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posted at 5/28/2010 3:15 PM EDT
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I'm not sure I agree with disciplining an employee with a week unpaid suspension. If the issue they are being disciplined for hinges on the company not being able to allow more than one employee off at a time there better not be any other employees allowed to be off during the suspension week.
If you can't reasonably allow the time off, punishing them with mandatory time off later sounds like a contradiction. I don't know what your policy or practice has been, but perhaps the punishment for not requesting and getting the time off approved would be that you just don't pay the vacation time. Pretty much the same thing as denying the vacation since if he were to still go, it would be considered unexcused absences. The employee would still have the vacation time to use later, so this approach may not be practical. |
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posted at 7/7/2010 9:47 AM EDT
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I believe that, so long as your employee handbook clearly defines Vacation time requests, approvals, denials, consequences etc., you can deny the request. In the event he goes anyway, you certainly are under no obligation to pay for time that he does not have accrued, and I'm certain that at least a written warning would be in order. |
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