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Okay, First, thank you for taking the time to read this, because I am actually out of places to go...  I am literally in living hell.  I hope you don't mind reading my story, because so far
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HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 2/15/2013 5:47 PM EST on Workforce Management
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Okay, First, thank you for taking the time to read this, because I am actually out of places to go... 

I am literally in living hell.  I hope you don't mind reading my story, because so far, I have found no one else to turn to.  Once you read this, I think you will understand why.  I work at a division of a pretty big company, our division is only 175 people. I work in the office, sales department, and I supervise 6 employees.  I have a manager over me, who also manages four other departments, which I also help out with, and I also have the general manager I also report to.  Well, our HR department is lacking, to say the least.  We have one HR manager, who is located at our corporate office, and then we have one at each of our divisions.  The HR person at our division is also the "office manager", she handles payroll, and things of that nature.  One of my employees was hired internally, and transferred into my department from the reception desk.  Her previous supervisor was this HR/ Office Manager.  Little did I know when I hired her, they are best friends, and actually hang out on a daily basis.  Needless to say, this has made my life very difficult.  I won't go into every detail of the situations that have come up, because I will run out of room, and probably time too, but the point I want to get across is that HR cannot be trusted.  I do not have anyone to go to for advice.  I can go to my managers, but sometimes, I want advice about them.  I have actually told this HR person things in the past tat have been repeated and spread around.  I have been targeted, talked about, and they have even tried to get me fired. 

The most recent issue just came up two days ago.  I was called into the GM's office and he told me that there were ongoing complaints about me from within my department, too many that he could not ignore, and he demoted me.  YES. HE DEMOTED ME. My question is this- If people are complaining about me, why doesn't my direct supervisor know about these complaints? Why haven't I been told about these "ongoing" complaints?  When an employee complains, isn't HR supposed to go to that employees supervisor, and then together they determine how to proceed?  I have never once received news of a complaint, and neither has my supervisor (he is just as upset as I am about this, as they did this to me while he was out).

I am still in shock that they can get away with this, without even telling me what the complaints were, and all of a sudden, I am not a supervisor anymore. Is there anyone who can give me advice on how to handle this?  I just don't have anywhere to go!  Corporate HR literally supports everything divisional HR does, no questions asked, and I am beginning to think this company doesn't follow the "core values" is says it does.

 Please help me.  I have no where else to turn.

 

- Demoted & Confused 

Re: HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 2/15/2013 7:17 PM EST on Workforce Management
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Did the GM provide any specific facts for the demotion other than complaints? What were the complaints about?

The short answer is that if you are unhappy look for somewhere else to work.

Re: HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 2/16/2013 6:43 AM EST on Workforce Management
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He provided absolutely no detail whatsoever. What I don't understand is why they have reason to demote me only due to these supposed complaints.  What I would expect from a reputable company, would be a conversation about what I need to improve on, they don't have to tell me details about complainer or complaints.  Am I expecting too much?  

Re: HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 2/16/2013 11:30 AM EST on Workforce Management
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First: 9/29/2011
Last: 5/2/2013
While you might have some reasonable expectations, organizations don't run by those. it appears that management felt that there was a legitimate reason to demote you and perhaps even a somewhat pressing need to do so sooner rather than later. Decisions like these aren't taken lightly.

If you feel this was unfair, you may certainly look elsewhere for employment. Or you could view this as a learning opportunity and approach management with something along the lines of "OK, I accept the demotion. Can you tell me what I might have done better so I can avoid a situation like this in the future?" They may or may not tell you, but with some coaching and guidance you might find yourself back in a supervisory position again at some point.

Re: HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 5/11/2013 6:05 AM EDT on Workforce Management
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They cannot demote you by just giving this baseless reason and moreover it requires a complete investigation and enquiry to go to such decision. You talk to your lawyer regarding the same. It will be helpful.
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Re: HR Manager cannot be trusted, but we have to trust her....

posted at 5/11/2013 9:07 AM EDT on Workforce Management
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They cannot demote you by just giving this baseless reason and moreover it requires a complete investigation and enquiry to go to such decision. You talk to your lawyer regarding the same. It will be helpful. ____________________________ hr outsourcing companies
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Briana- You are just wrong. Companies can and do demote without providing a valid reason. There is no legal requirement to provide a reason (in most jurisdictions of the US). It may not be fair but companies have no legal obligation to be fair. I am assuming the basis for demotion has nothing to do with discriminating against a protected class member.

The best advice was provided above by others, namely, she should move on to a new opportunity as quickly as possible.

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