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We have an employee who allegedly has some personal hygiene issues (body odor, bladder control and feet) and no one wishes to take the employee to shuttle and or carpool with this employee. What is th
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posted at 1/27/2010 7:25 AM EST
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If you had taken the time to read my post, you would have seen that I did NOT say the employee should be disciplined for his hygiene issues!
I said that if the employee responds rudely to his manager's suggestion that he improve his hygiene, the manager should then apply discipline...again, NOT for having poor hygiene but for being rude to his manager.
In addition, I disagree mightily with the suggestion that the employee's manager convey the message symbolically. Any manager that would convey a message like this symbolically instead of directly is juvenile, unprofessional and a very poor communicator.
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posted at 1/27/2010 7:37 AM EST
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I agree with hrbth that so called symbolic anonymous suggestions to improve hygiene are juvenile, unprofessional and idiotic. This relates to nothing more than hiding in a dark alley and shooting someone you disagree with in the back.
A professional will address this matter with the employee face to face and not rely on childish cowardly approaches. In all likelihood the individual is not aware of the matter and may be appreciative of the counsel.
This should not be delegated to a EAP and it should not be delegated to HR. This is a managers responsibility and this is part of what the manager is being paid for.
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posted at 1/27/2010 8:45 AM EST
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I stand on the side of HRPro and hrbth. A manager often has to tackle issues that are not easy. This one should be no different. And personally the "symbolic" gesture reminds me of High School antics, not workplace behavior.
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posted at 2/3/2010 12:29 PM EST
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I have a similar problem. The employee was told that others had complained, and the employee agreed to take better care if personal hygiene, although noting that they do not feel there is a problem (there is). However, the issue continues and the employee seems not to notice (they seem to be 'nose-deaf'). What to do in this case? Keep reminding them? Discipline?
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posted at 2/3/2010 1:02 PM EST
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Could be some cultural issues. I know of some factions/groups that just don't believe in all those hygene products. Clothes are neat and fashionable, but the stench is overpowering.
There can also be some medical conditions that will cause odor problems, including reactions to medications.
While I don't know that peer pressure rises to the level of be analagous to shooting someone in the back, it can be inappropriate and perhaps create hostile work environment issues if the odor problems are a result of the items mentioned above.
One of my office neighbors has no sense of smell - so if she had a problem, she would not be aware of it. All I would have to do is make a discreet mention and she would address the problem. Her boss would not even have to get involved. In a case like that, a little peer pressure might be just the thing.
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posted at 3/16/2010 7:34 AM EDT
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I believe it is the manager's responsibility to discuss the matter with the individual privately, confidentiality, and with sensitivity. We had a similar situation with a female with an offensive body odor who also, at any time, had various bandages on her legs that did not always stay attached and would be left in her trail. As it turns out, the individual was somewhat aware of the situation (she suffered from a diagnosed ailment) but did not know to what extent others noticed or took offense Given the opportunity to discuss the matter, the individual asked for a workspace away from others, near an exit where she could come and go without offending others. It was a "win-win."
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posted at 3/16/2010 7:35 AM EDT
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I didn't realize the age of this post. Also, forgive the "confidentiality" typo: "confidentially."
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posted at 3/23/2010 11:17 AM EDT
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Kryptonite: It seems to be a relevant topic at any time! I know a bank VP who inherited this very problem. She shared the "kind truth" with the person and they never had the problem again.
And all I can say is ... if I was the offending one I would certainly want somebody to let me know!
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posted at 4/7/2010 9:45 PM EDT
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