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Our company does have a company handbook stating vacation time and pto/sick and employee's eligibility. My question is how do you handle one employee's manager allowing one of their employees to abuse
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posted at 11/17/2010 4:57 AM EST
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Our company does have a company handbook stating vacation time and pto/sick and employee's eligibility. My question is how do you handle one employee's manager allowing one of their employees to abuse the policy by taking way more vac/pto/sick than they have accurred. I personally think this is unfair to all the other employees.
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posted at 11/18/2010 10:00 AM EST
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Are you in HR/Management or are you just a disgruntled employee? Employers can have different policies for different groups of employees/departments as long as it does not have disparate impact implications (nondiscriminatory that is).
Of course, you also know that it can have disgruntling impact on employees too. But it is not in and of itself illegal.
I can understand it especially if the group that is allowed to use it does so because they know that later in the year that they will NOT be able to use it due to business reasons (think of accountants around 4/15).
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posted at 11/19/2010 5:25 AM EST
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I am not a disgruntled employee. We have an employee handbook with outlines policies, benefits, etc. which is for all employees. I think it is dishonest and unfair to all employees in the company when one manager/executive allows his employee to take time off whether it be vacation/pto/sick and they enter it as if no time has been taken and they worked the day.
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posted at 11/19/2010 5:46 AM EST
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First question-How do know for sure that you have ALL the facts and information necessary to assume your understanding of the situation is correct?
Second question-Is this your problem? Do you own the responsibility to ensure that all employees in the office are treated the same in accordance with the company's time off policy? If not, take the issue to the real owner. If you are the owner, lets continue
Lets assume your understanding of the situation is correct AND you own the responsibility to fix it. Here is the menu of possible solutions:
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posted at 11/19/2010 5:52 AM EST
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Sorry, got cut off
1. Do nothing
2. Talk to the manager whom you believe is not following policy and inquire about the issue. (You did say you have the authority to inquire since you own the policy enforcement right?)
3. Once you have the manager's take on why they are administering the policy he/she is, then you need to have the authority/influence to have them change their behavior. Are you equipped to that?
Are you able to point out the pain the manager will incur (nicely of course of non compliance? Do you need to clear this with someone before you have this chat?
Again your biggest risk is that you do not have all the actual facts upon which to take actions.
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posted at 11/19/2010 7:16 AM EST
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I would also add the question of "has the manager been given the approval by someone above them to do so?" Approval that it is possible that you do not know about?
For some reason, based on the way you are posting, it is not coming across to me that you have the authority to change this situation. But rather that you are a disgruntled employee. If I am correct, all you can do is bring it to HR/managements attention. But realize that if you do and they already know it is happening and have approved it that you are maybe sticking your opinion in where it does not belong -- regardless if the policy is "Fair" or not.
And I know a lot of companies that allow managers to reward their employees with a paid day off -- especially if those employees are exempt and have worked lots of extra hours lately or other such scenario.
If I am incorrect and you are in a position to influence a change, then I agree with the poster above me. You go to that manager and tell him that he can no longer provide free paid days off to his employees if that is the policy you want to adopt. But I would first look at why it is currently happening.
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