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We have a gentleman that is on the older side and been employed for along time. Employees are starting to complain that they are worried working with him since he is older and drives heavy equipment.
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posted at 7/13/2011 4:25 AM EDT
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I agree hrbth. Semantics and word smithing is never an effective defense
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posted at 7/13/2011 6:07 AM EDT
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Directly from the EEOC :
"Age Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Age Discrimination & Harassment
It is unlawful to harass a person because of his or her age.
Harassment can include, for example, offensive remarks about a person's age. Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).
The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer."
You need to do a quick about face and deal with the current attitude issues before this employee decides to make a claim of harrassment due to age.
You can NOT force him to retire. You can NOT terminate him strictly due to his age. You can NOT demote/promote/move or any other euphemism for changing his job specifically due to his age.
You can hold him to the same performance standards that you do all other employees. But you can NOT single him out.
Personally it sounds like the attitude problem is coming down from management. Not a good way to deal with any of these issues!
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posted at 7/13/2011 10:09 AM EDT
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Would someone please promote me into a retirement position.
More pay, less responsibility........... sign me up!
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posted at 8/2/2011 10:01 AM EDT
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Just how old is this guy?
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posted at 8/2/2011 10:37 AM EDT
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All that matters is that he's over 40 (while I don't believe the OP stated his exact age, I suspect the employee must be over 40 as it's unlikely anyone would describe someone 39 or younger as being "on the older side").
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posted at 8/3/2011 8:28 AM EDT
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Howard7 ia on target. Focus on the job performance issues, not age. Follow your policy when job performance standards are not being met. Why weren't the "accidents" documented? No documentation means they did not happen.
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posted at 8/3/2011 10:43 AM EDT
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If he meets the basic job qualifications, his production and quality are up to standard and he is not violating any policies, he has earned the right to work in his current role. If there are any issues with any of the above begin documenting and addressing through progressive corrective actions right now. If health and safety is your main concern than you can be fairly aggressive with your actions and outcomes as long as the health and safety issues are not evident throughout your entire operator workforce.
Age should never have entered this conversation, it is a health and safety issue. Now that age is out there and a factor on the minds of the co-workers, you stand a good chance of some blowback no matter how you proceed.
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posted at 8/3/2011 12:46 PM EDT
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What is the complete story here? You are saying that the supervisor is saying the employee complaints are not unfounded, so that says something to me.
What are the employees' real concerns? Has your investigation revealed that their concerns are justified?
Is the problem real or are you trying to find a solution for a problem that does not really exist?
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posted at 8/4/2011 5:10 AM EDT
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Interesting question: "is the problem real?" In my experience, the problems usually are very real, but we choose to ignore them.
Like my grandma would say - It's all fun and games until someone gets poked in the eye.
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