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I was asked to research issues related to opening an office in a South American country. We would hire an office manager who would also generate leads and service clients' accounts. No other employees
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posted at 8/18/2011 7:55 PM EDT
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I was asked to research issues related to opening an office in a South American country. We would hire an office manager who would also generate leads and service clients' accounts. No other employees would be hired yet.
I am not sure if we should pay this person at levels consistent with our other employees in the U.S. or at the country's rates.
Any of you have any insight?

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posted at 8/19/2011 6:59 AM EDT
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Pay at the other country's rates. You'll have to do everything else the way the other country does it, why not administer the pay that way too?

If the other country's normal pay rates are lower than yours, then paying at your rates would mean you're spending too much. If the other country's standard pay levels are higher than yours, then paying at your rates means you won't be able to attract any qualified candidates.

I'm in Canada, and Canadian salaries for middle management and below are often quite a bit higher than for the same jobs in the US. We wouldn't even consider paying Canadian rates to our American employees because we wouldn't get anything in return for it - we'd get the same people doing the same jobs at the same performance levels, for more money. No ROI in that.

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posted at 8/19/2011 7:39 AM EDT
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Agree with hrbth if you are hiring a local to that job person. I would also suggest keeping the local pay standard.

If you are thinking of an ex-pat going from here to there, that might deserve different consideration.

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posted at 8/19/2011 9:26 AM EDT
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***ALARM BELLS SHOULD BE GOING OFF***

Do not start to hire anyone in any foreign country without learning all the rules of engagement.

Just one example. You hire an office manager and quickly determine he/she is not a good fit, regardless of the reason.

Can you just terminate?
What are your obligations to this person?

Some countries are so "socialized" that you may owe two years pay for someone that was only with you for a month.

Tread carefully and engage local employment counsel before taking any actions.

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posted at 8/19/2011 10:22 AM EDT
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I would have said this too except I assumed OP would be thoroughly researching local employment laws before this new office idea becomes an actual project.

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posted at 8/19/2011 3:59 PM EDT
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Thank you all foe the replies. All were helpful. Like I said, this is merely research at this point, and the salary we pay will determine the feasibility of the project.

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posted at 8/19/2011 4:11 PM EDT
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I meant all FRIENDS, not foes
Actually the typo was for the work "for".

Re: Hiring Employees Abroad

posted at 10/16/2011 12:02 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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In Response to Hiring Employees Abroad:
I was asked to research issues related to opening an office in a South American country. We would hire an office manager who would also generate leads and service clients' accounts. No other employees would be hired yet. I am not sure if we should pay this person at levels consistent with our other employees in the U.S. or at the country's rates. Any of you have any insight?
Posted by Caromp

Well you can check the approximate country pay rates on http://www.GlassDoor.com and try to pay him/her per hour rather than monthly basis and pay some extra,  this will increase productivity and will provide you of a clearer picture of what is happening in that office. You can use http://www.HubStaff.com for the purpose. Dont even open an office if not required. Your manager can work and report from home and can make sales call until you get some business and then you can always go for an office.....

Let me know if yo require any info as we are operating in several countries and without offices...

Re: Hiring Employees Abroad

posted at 10/21/2011 10:39 AM EDT on Workforce Management
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In Response to Re: Hiring Employees Abroad:
In Response to Hiring Employees Abroad : Well you can check the approximate country pay rates on http://www.GlassDoor.com and try to pay him/her per hour rather than monthly basis and pay some extra,  this will increase productivity and will provide you of a clearer picture of what is happening in that office. You can use http://www.HubStaff.com for the purpose. Dont even open an office if not required. Your manager can work and report from home and can make sales call until you get some business and then you can always go for an office..... Let me know if yo require any info as we are operating in several countries and without offices...
Posted by BabarPirzada



Do you have a checklist of what you do when you go into a new country?  I.e. recruiting, payroll, benefits, etc.  I have joined a company that is gearing up to obtain work in Central and South America and they have no playbook so to speak.  Please email to johnnyrilo@hotmail.com

Re: Hiring Employees Abroad

posted at 10/27/2011 10:50 AM EDT on Workforce Management
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In Response to Re: Hiring Employees Abroad:
In Response to Re: Hiring Employees Abroad : Do you have a checklist of what you do when you go into a new country?  I.e. recruiting, payroll, benefits, etc.  I have joined a company that is gearing up to obtain work in Central and South America and they have no playbook so to speak.  Please email to johnnyrilo@hotmail.com
Posted by johnnyrilo


If you're a member of SHRM or CLC, I think they have various tools you can customize for this purpose.  If not, then look on the Businessweek or Forbes websites, there may be some resources there.

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