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Does anyone know if a Union has a duty to provide the employer with the names of its members?
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Re: Union Information Question
posted at 5/3/2013 2:07 PM EDT
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Didn't realize that was what a "checkoff" was. One other question from a simple non-union HR person ---- If there are different rules (i.e. a CBA) for certain employees but not others, wouldn't the employer need to know that so they knew which applied to who? For example, during the Hostess shutdown, I heard a quote that there were over 300 different CBAs for the 15000 employees (some of whom were in NO union). Does a smart employer just give all the best of the rules to all employees? |
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Re: Union Information Question
posted at 5/6/2013 7:44 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Union Information Question: Didn't realize that was what a "checkoff" was. One other question from a simple non-union HR person ---- If there are different rules (i.e. a CBA) for certain employees but not others, wouldn't the employer need to know that so they knew which applied to who? For example, during the Hostess shutdown, I heard a quote that there were over 300 different CBAs for the 15000 employees (some of whom were in NO union). Does a smart employer just give all the best of the rules to all employees? Posted by rrupert You may refer to yourself as a "simple" HR person, but your question is far from simple; the obvious answer is "it depends," which as an HR person I am sure you are very familiar with this reply. I gave your question some thought and the following is the best general answer I could provide. Since management decides what positions are necessary to fulfill their corporations mission statement the Unions main role is in bargaining over working conditions and wages and benefits. At the height of the union movement the unions were able to dictate the job requirements of specific positions, which led to the creation of unnecessary redundant assignments. This is no longer the case and the unions realize this and are more willing to consolidate assignments for the sake of efficiency and to preserve union jobs. In the case of multiple unions the issue of work jurisdiction may come into play such as which union loads the delivery trucks; the dock workers or the truck drivers and their assistants. Seniority rules are usually the main protection offered by unions, which prevents management from firing senior high paid workers and replacing them with lowered paid employees. The CBA rules apply to all employees, not just union members and the union has an obligation to provide fair representation to members and non-members alike. Although there are Supreme Court decisions on the roles and responsibilities of Unions, the SC acknowledged that, other than federal laws such as OSHA, FLSA, and the NLRA, State laws are a significant factor in the rights of employees vis-à-vis unions. |
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Re: Union Information Question
posted at 5/6/2013 12:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for taking the time to respond. My only real interaction with unions and CBAs was a very long time ago as a 401k recordkeeper where one client had both union and non-union employees. To this day, I still remember my trip to the plant that was unionized and sitting in on a union benefits meeting. It was so very different than any other benefits meeting that I had ever been in. I was early 20s, fresh out of college and wet behind the ears. Learned a little bit as it related to benefits, but not much else! |
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Re: Union Information Question
posted at 5/6/2013 1:06 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Union Information Question: Thanks for taking the time to respond. My only real interaction with unions and CBAs was a very long time ago as a 401k recordkeeper where one client had both union and non-union employees. To this day, I still remember my trip to the plant that was unionized and sitting in on a union benefits meeting. It was so very different than any other benefits meeting that I had ever been in. I was early 20s, fresh out of college and wet behind the ears. Learned a little bit as it related to benefits, but not much else! Posted by rrupert You are very welcome and being retired it was my pleasure to attempt to answer your question. |
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