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If I understand what I am reading correctly, the months worked by a temporary employee do count towards their FMLA "12 months working for an employer", but the hours worked as a temp do not. Is that c
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Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/8/2012 12:13 PM EST on Workforce Management
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If I understand what I am reading correctly, the months worked by a temporary employee do count towards their FMLA "12 months working for an employer", but the hours worked as a temp do not.

Is that correct?

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/8/2012 12:59 PM EST on Workforce Management
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In Response to Confusion About Temporary Workers:
If I understand what I am reading correctly, the months worked by a temporary employee do count towards their FMLA "12 months working for an employer", but the hours worked as a temp do not. Is that correct?
Posted by sbnonprof


If the hours worked by the "temp" were on an agency payroll, that is likely correct.

Why did you convert the "temp" to a "temporary employee'?

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/9/2012 10:30 AM EST on Workforce Management
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From SHRM:

"FMLA: Eligibility: Does time spent as a temporary employee count toward FMLA leave eligibility? 

9/23/2010  
 

Yes, time spent previously working for the organization as a temporary employee counts toward FMLA leave eligibility. Regardless of whether the employment arrangement involves a staffing firm, leasing agency or similar, or the temp is directly employed and is on an employer’s payroll, this time counts toward FMLA leave eligibility. However, any breaks in service lasting seven years or longer do not count toward the 12-month eligibility requirement.

A temporary or leasing agency is also responsible for providing FMLA leave for a temp who works for it for 12 months and 1,250 hours, even if the individual’s employment consists of staffing services for multiple clients at varying lengths. If the total duration of time spent working for the staffing firm itself is at least 12 months and 1,250 hours, then the staffing firm is obligated to extend FMLA rights.

Temporary agencies and client companies can also be considered joint employers when determining whether an employer has 50 or more employees for the purpose of applicability of the FMLA to an organization. The nature of the relationship and whether joint employment exists should be examined (see http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/ESA/Title_29/Part_825/29CFR825.106.htm).

Further, if there is a continuing employment relationship, employers should count temporary employees when determining whether they have 50 or more employees"



So if it is through an temp ee agency, the agency would be responsible for the FMLA leave. But if it is a temporary employee not through an agency and they have worked more than 12 months, you do need to look at how many hours they have worked for the employer. You must track the hours worked for multiple purposes.

I know you asked about FMLA, but a lot of employers limit how many total hours can be worked as a "temp" before the person must either be turned into a "permanent" employee OR the relationship is terminated. You need to check ALL your benefits plans to see how temporary employees are defined AND there are some ERISA plans like your 401k that MUST make temps eligible at a certain point based on the laws.

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/9/2012 3:38 PM EST on Workforce Management
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From SHRM: "FMLA: Eligibility: Does time spent as a temporary employee count toward FMLA leave eligibility?  9/23/2010      Yes, time spent previously working for the organization as a temporary employee counts toward FMLA leave eligibility. Regardless of whether the employment arrangement involves a staffing firm, leasing agency or similar, or the temp is directly employed and is on an employer’s payroll, this time counts toward FMLA leave eligibility. However, any breaks in service lasting seven years or longer do not count toward the 12-month eligibility requirement. A temporary or leasing agency is also responsible for providing FMLA leave for a temp who works for it for 12 months and 1,250 hours, even if the individual’s employment consists of staffing services for multiple clients at varying lengths. If the total duration of time spent working for the staffing firm itself is at least 12 months and 1,250 hours, then the staffing firm is obligated to extend FMLA rights. Temporary agencies and client companies can also be considered joint employers when determining whether an employer has 50 or more employees for the purpose of applicability of the FMLA to an organization. The nature of the relationship and whether joint employment exists should be examined (see http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/ESA/Title_29/Part_825/29CFR825.106.htm ). Further, if there is a continuing employment relationship, employers should count temporary employees when determining whether they have 50 or more employees" So if it is through an temp ee agency, the agency would be responsible for the FMLA leave. But if it is a temporary employee not through an agency and they have worked more than 12 months, you do need to look at how many hours they have worked for the employer. You must track the hours worked for multiple purposes. I know you asked about FMLA, but a lot of employers limit how many total hours can be worked as a "temp" before the person must either be turned into a "permanent" employee OR the relationship is terminated. You need to check ALL your benefits plans to see how temporary employees are defined AND there are some ERISA plans like your 401k that MUST make temps eligible at a certain point based on the laws.
Posted by rrupert


please check that website. I cannot find it even with out the paren and dot.

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/10/2012 3:16 PM EST on Workforce Management
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Howard, That was a quote directly from the SHRM article.....

I know the DOL rearranged some of the FMLA regulations on their website a few months or so ago probably after the article was written , but it would still be under Section 825.106  since that hasn't changed since this article from SHRM...so it could be googled by typing "FMLA 825.106.

Here is a direct link to that section : http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2010/julqtr/pdf/29cfr825.106.pdf

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/11/2012 11:20 AM EST on Workforce Management
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In Response to Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers:
Howard, That was a quote directly from the SHRM article..... I know the DOL rearranged some of the FMLA regulations on their website a few months or so ago probably after the article was written , but it would still be under Section 825.106  since that hasn't changed since this article from SHRM...so it could be googled by typing "FMLA 825.106. Here is a direct link to that section : http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2010/julqtr/pdf/29cfr825.106.pdf
Posted by rrupert


rrupert-Thanks. Reading this information I noted the following "

In joint employment relationships, only the primary employer is responsible for giving required notices to its employees, providing FMLA leave, and maintenance of health benefits. Factors considered in determining which is the ‘‘primary’’ employer include authority/responsibility to hire and fire, assign/place the employee, make payroll, and provide employment benefits. For employees of temporary placement agencies, for example, the placement agency most commonly would be the primary employer. Where a PEO is a joint employer, the client employer most commonly would be the

primary employer."

From this I would conclude that the time spend as the employee of the agency probably will not count towards the new employers FMLA obligation. However I will agree that it is a facts and circumstances situation that might need legal review.

Re: Confusion About Temporary Workers

posted at 2/13/2012 8:39 AM EST on Workforce Management
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While I agree with you if the temp worker stays at the agency, the agency would be responsible.  I do wish the OP would come back and clarify a bit more about the temp relationship.  Because it could make a huge difference in the answers.

However, I will have to try to find the article/regulation where I have read that if the temp worker at the agency later becomes a worker at the client company, then time as a temp at the client company is counted in the 1250 hours as service time.  I wish I had it bookmarked, but many of my FMLA bookmarks/links are no longer valid due to the DOL moving the regulations to a different spot on their website.

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