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I have a district manager (lives in MA, worked for us in NH) who asked for and was granted a 5-week personal leave of absence which she said was to go out of the country to visit family. She was allow
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Collecting back vacation time paid for a LOA while employee was working for another company
posted at 8/3/2010 9:50 AM EDT
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First: 6/9/2009 Last: 4/26/2011 |
I can't condone this former employee's actions, but our pratices force employees into unethical decisions. How many of us would immediately terminate an employee who found another job, but at the same time, the employee wants to continue working for us? Even better, an employee gives a two week resignation notice. How many of us would term 'em immediately upon receiving the notice and pay the employee for the two weeks? Or, if the employee wants to take back the resignation (it would depend our impression of the employee, right?)
Our practices inform and employees know they can't work for both companies. Ethical or not, employees do what's in their best interests, even if they're sometimes burning bridges. |
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Collecting back vacation time paid for a LOA while employee was working for another company
posted at 8/3/2010 12:00 PM EDT
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First: 11/12/2009 Last: 9/14/2011 |
Our practices are based on what is best for our employers. All of what you mention, like the 2 week resignation notice, the walk out the door upon resignation, etc is very true, but it's there as a result of "lessons learned" and often painfully so.
The employee lied. The employee might have been working for a competitor. The employee was not acting in the best interests of her employer. The employee collected pay for sick time, which is almost never paid out on termination (fraud, anyone?). So, I won't excuse the behavior nor blame our practices. It's because of this behavior that we have those practics. |
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Collecting back vacation time paid for a LOA while employee was working for another company
posted at 8/4/2010 5:05 AM EDT
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The norm of reciprocity is very strong, employees are usually honest if the communication climate allows for that. If someone isn't honest, the first place to look is why they felt they couldn't be honest and try to change that culture going forward.
But some people are just born manipulators, if that's the case, you got off cheap. I wouldn't even try to look back. |
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Collecting back vacation time paid for a LOA while employee was working for another company
posted at 8/4/2010 10:21 AM EDT
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I'm thinking we need to take responsibility (blame)for our practices. We're always caught up into making rules for the small percentage of violators. We're quick to remember those lessons learned, before we give an employee the benefit of trust.
I'm with ya nork4! We really don't have a choice but to act in the best interest of our employer. |
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Collecting back vacation time paid for a LOA while employee was working for another company
posted at 8/4/2010 10:50 AM EDT
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First: 11/12/2009 Last: 9/14/2011 |
This really is sort of a "which came first? The chicken or the egg" situation, isn't it?
I'm sure the employer in this situation wanted to do the best for this employee and got burned for it. I've seen it all too often in HR - give an employee with a heartrending story a break and you get taken advantage of. And these are professionals, too! I think we've all been in this situation. |
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