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One of our departments in our company is General Contracting/Construction. For whatever reason, we paid an employee a serious of checks to remodel our office building. This is what he is employed by u
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Paying an employee 'on the side'
posted at 9/9/2011 7:31 AM EDT
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One of our departments in our company is General Contracting/Construction. For whatever reason, we paid an employee a serious of checks to remodel our office building. This is what he is employed by us to do, yet we paid him after hours on his own time to do that for our building and didn't process payment through payroll.
Can we legally do that? PS. We are not issuing him a 1099 either, even thought the amount it well over $600. We operate in Michigan, if it matters.
Please advise.
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Paying an employee 'on the side'
posted at 9/9/2011 7:57 AM EDT
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No, you can't. The work he performed was work he would normally do for you. If it was after hours as you say, I'm assuming that this work would've been in excess of the 40 hours per week. If he is a non-exempt employee, those hours would've been subject to overtime rates.
That pay would have, regardless of FLSA status, also been subject to statutory withholding taxes.
So you're probably in violation of both state and Federal wage and hour laws. And your company is most assuredly in violation of tax and withholding regulations.
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posted at 9/9/2011 8:53 AM EDT
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Krispy
This is very similar to the posting you had where you paid someone else for work they did not do. These are very serious lack of proper controls on your compensation payments.
Again I advise you to immediately alert your legal counsel with a full explanation and ask them how to proceed. You should certainly advise them of all the issues that Nork has alerted you to, suggest a course of action and ask if this is how they want it handled.
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posted at 9/9/2011 9:00 AM EDT
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I agree with you! Unfortunately, our corporate attorney is the owners wife. Neither one of them have any issues with the problems I've discussed......
Sadly,
Kris
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posted at 9/9/2011 9:21 AM EDT
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In that case you need to immediately seek new employment as they will drag you down with them when the fit hits the shan.
Keep a detailed time log and writeup regarding each issue, what you advised them, when you advised them and their responses.
You might also want to do some research around the whistleblower rules to see if you can win an award if you turn them in at some point. Of course be careful about this.
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posted at 9/9/2011 9:28 AM EDT
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In Canada, legislation is passing soon where HR professionals will lose their professional designations (and therefore their rights to work as HR professionals) if they DON'T blow the whistle on their employers' illegal activities. This may come to the US some day...
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posted at 9/9/2011 9:39 AM EDT
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Krispy:
The advice to get out now is right on. If you don't and this all blows up, you might be the scapegoat. The advice to keep a notebook of all these shenanigans is right on - if you can show that you advised the owners properly and they still ignored your advice, then you might be off the hook and increase their liability.
Also note that if this does blow up and becomes public, your HR career is toast.
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posted at 9/9/2011 12:38 PM EDT
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I agree, start looking for a new position, this is not likely to be an isolated incident and people who would put you at risk are not likely to defend you when it all goes south.
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posted at 9/9/2011 3:31 PM EDT
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I would document any responses to them through email that shows the date and the time. BCC them to a personal email account. If it is a verbal conversation, come back and IMMEDIATELY document it in an email. Later it can be used and is NOT considered "hearsay" because it was your documented thoughts at that specific time, not your current remembrances of your previous thoughts. (My boss is an attorney and is very adamant on this point of documentation).
I am lucky to work for a company that believes in staying on the correct side of the line in FLSA and pay issues. I can't say I would stay at one that didn't. Mostly because if they cross the line in this area, they are more than likely doing it elsewhere also.
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posted at 9/9/2011 4:17 PM EDT
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rruppert is exactly right - if they're cheating in one area, they're cheating in another.
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