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We are a small manufacturing firm in California. We will be issuing production-employees black jeans as part of our new company uniforms. It is important that our employees look sharp as customers vis
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posted at 9/13/2011 1:15 PM EDT
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You have given many good points to consider. THANK YOU ALL!

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posted at 9/22/2011 12:00 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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James - we have company uniforms here.  Black pants and red shirts.  The black does fade over time.  They are not denim.  We provide 11 pairs.  During the Summer we provide 5 pairs of shorts for the employees.  They are to take them home and wash them as needed - they can't make it two weeks but can make it one week.  I'm not sure two pair of black pants is going to get your ee's through the week - depending on what type of work they do.  I know I don't want to wash every other night when I get home. 

One other comment, how will you know if the person "abused" the jeans or if they were torn/wornout during work? 

I think it's great you are providing them, however, I think five pair would be better so they don't need to wash every other night. 

As far as going home to change, I would probably be a little more lenient and give them a "one time" free day.  The next time they go home to change and are not compensated.  If they had five pair rather than two pair I may not give them one "free" day.

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posted at 9/22/2011 3:37 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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If the black jeans are left at work for the laundry or in a locker, what happens to the unfortunate employee whose jeans are stolen by another employee who sees that as an easier solution than driving home to get their own? 
What happens if someone gains weight, loses weight or becomes pregnant?  Jeans are not very forgiving that way.
You are only giving them two pair?  To me, that's two days worth of jeans, not a full week.  So, it sounds like you are inviting employees to be wearing dirty, stretched out pants.  Different people will wash them in different ways at different frequencies and so, they will wear out at different rates.
Just wondering.

Re: company uniform

posted at 9/22/2011 4:17 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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Although I agree with the idea of providing 5 pairs of jeans so EE's do not have to do laundry every night, the main concern should be that employees look professional and inspire confidence with customers and potential customers onsite.  As managers and HR professionals, we need to look to the well-being of the organization first--and all private-sector firms live and die by their customers.  At some point, an employee may have a garment stolen (or claim one was stolen) and the appropriate manager will have to investigate and decide how to handle the situation.

It's always easier to stand on the sideline and "lob grenades" and point out what's wrong with a plan than to make the effort to support it and make the initiative work.  If there are one or two people who really have a problem adapting to the new uniforms, that response may just be symptomatic of a bad "fit" with the culture anyway.

The only other comment I have is from a legal perspective: make sure any payroll deductions are handled according to the laws of your state.  Here in North Carolina, employees cannot sign a "blanket" deduction authorization for lost or damaged uniforms, tools, etc; they must specifically sign a deduction form at the time the deduction is to be made.

I hope your employees look very impressive with their new, company-provided, uniform jeans.

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posted at 9/22/2011 8:54 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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We provide the shirts (with company logo) as well. They leave them here and the company launders them.
Posted by JamesPSullivan


If you launder the shirts, why don't you launder the jeans?  Get them as many jeans as you have gotten them shirts and presto, no issues.

Re: company uniform

posted at 9/23/2011 11:31 AM EDT on Workforce Management
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In Response to Re: company uniform:
In Response to company uniform : If you launder the shirts, why don't you launder the jeans?  Get them as many jeans as you have gotten them shirts and presto, no issues.
Posted by tglit1976


Greetings:

I am not replying to only this post but all the others, because I do not know how to navigate this as yet.

1). What will they do when the issue of religion comes up and or cultural restrictions for wearing the uniform. Has anyone see recent court cases regarding such issue. I am all for uniforms, but there will always be someone to challenge authority and the system. What do we do then!!!

2). In one instance, the argument was raised, if this requirement effects the outcome of the  product in any way form or manner.

3). How often do visitors come around and if that will effect the outcome of the product if this particular employee is not in compliance.

These are just thoughts.

Charles

Re: company uniform

posted at 9/27/2011 5:49 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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I have conflicted thoughts about this situation. 1) why not treat the jeans the same way you treat the uniform shirts? That's already working successfully. You provide them, you wash them, you replace them when they start to look shoddy. 2) I agree that you might be better off mandating black pants and let staff buy their own. No problems with fit, allergies, comfort, price, etc. Then treat them the same way you'd treat anything else: if the pants start to look bad, tell the staff member not to wear those particular pants any more, just like you would if someone came to work wearing a ripped uniform shirt, or with their underpants showing, etc. Plenty of people in the workplace have to wear a uniform, provided by the company or not. Sure, there are sometimes issues, but mostly it works just fine. You're making it too complicated.

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posted at 10/4/2011 1:02 PM EDT on Workforce Management
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I have seen other places where the shirts are kept and laundered - that's simply a matter of throwing your uniform shirt on over an undershirt. I think employees would not be as comfortable stripping down to leave their uniform pants at work to be laundered. Plus, jeans come in a lot more variety of sizes, and if bulk laundering - you'd definitely have employees who took issue with having to wear pants someone else had worn.  If you are going to implement a full uniform, I definitely agree that a minimum of 5-6 pairs needs to be ordered for the employee, and the employee should be responsible for maintaining.

After that, have you considered just implementing a uniform allowance?  If the pants are $35 a piece, a uniform allowance of $100 each year allows for 3 pairs to be replaced.  Less hassle for the company to try and track "normal wear" across employees.

Outside of that, make sure the dress policy says that employees must wear the full company uniform. It might initiate some complaints up front, but its not so excessively harsh of a policy. Whenever a public school switches to uniforms, you hear complaints up front, and then everyone settles in and doesn't think twice about it.
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