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Hi I need to proof the idea that having “Train the trainer “program in our company is cost effective and shall enhance the development planning. The question is how I would support this
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posted at 5/24/2008 12:28 AM EDT
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Hi
I need to proof the idea that having “Train the trainer “program in our company is cost effective and shall enhance the development planning.
The question is how I would support this idea with facts and statistics.
Need your comments and suggestions.
Regards,

Training Idea

posted at 5/25/2008 1:15 PM EDT
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Hello Anmar.

There are a number of ways to demonstrate the effectiveness of your Train the Trainer program. I must say that it is unusual to need to prove effectiveness for this kind of program, unless the program is very, very expensive or is getting a lot of complaints. Think of the alternative: letting trainers loose on your employees when they have little or no idea on how to impart learning.

You can demonstrate effectiveness at one or more levels. I cover the basics of evaluation on my web page at www.businessperform.com/html/evaluating_training_effectiven.html

How you go about the evaluation will depend on:

-who is asking
-why they are asking
-how much resources you have for the evaluation
-the data you have available or you can collect

I can say more if you can tell us a bit more about your situation.

Les Allan
Author: Training Evaluation Toolkit
www.businessperform.com/html/training_evaluation_toolkit.html

Training Idea

posted at 5/30/2008 12:36 AM EDT
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Hi Anmar,
what make you think that by having the "Train the Trainer" program can make cost effective?
I belief the main concern by the Management shall be how effective the training and they would like to see the impact @ R.O.I.
If you can proof by having in House Trainer it can directly or indirectly boost up the productivity; they will consider it.
Hope it can help you.

Training Idea

posted at 5/31/2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Thanks dears for your replies. the thing is that my company is applying the cost cutting method by increasing the number of in-house training sessions and asking the company staff to deliver these courses and the question is how do we do that in an effective way? I mean we dont want our employees to feel boring from this way of learning. What I am thinking of is to prepare some employees to deliver the needed courses by sending them to courses which can prepare them to become trainers and conduct the in-house courses in a regular basis

Training Idea

posted at 6/1/2008 4:46 PM EDT
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What I am thinking of is to prepare some employees to deliver the needed courses by sending them to courses which can prepare them to become trainers and conduct the in-house courses in a regular basis

This can be cost effective and get the results you want when:

-the training will be regular enough for trainers to keep up their technical expertise and their training skills
-you have enough employees that genuinely want to help people learn (and not just put on a show)
-you have enough employees that are well respected and have excellent interpersonal and organizational skills
-you are paying large amounts of money to external training providers
-you have clear organizational objectives on what you want to achieve from the training

To test the cost effectiveness of bringing training in-house, you could run a pilot with a small number of teams or departments. Devise clear cut cost and outcome models (dollars per employee, dollars per skill, defects per batch, number of customer complaints, etc) and cost up your current training and outcomes. Then run the pilot and compare cost and outcomes with the external training method. Allow at least a 20% saving for the same or better outcomes to make it worthwhile. After a few months, you should have an idea on whether to expand the pilot program to all employees.

Les Allan
Author: Training Evaluation Toolkit
www.businessperform.com/html/training_evaluation_toolkit.html

Training Idea

posted at 6/4/2008 4:54 AM EDT
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All responses here are great. Don't forget to show them the loss expectation should you choose to do nothing at all.

Training Idea

posted at 7/24/2008 3:16 AM EDT
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Evening,

You may find the largest train-the-trainer program in U.S. history will provide some answers. The Training Within Industry program was used during the United States in WWII to convert the nations factories into war production machines. This program has been called the "most underrated achievement in the 20th century."

The "trick" if that is what we can call it, was through the multiplier effect of training trainers in war production plants, who then trained supervisors, who then trained line workers. Within a four year period, nearly 2 million workers had been trained in Job Instruction, Job Methods(kaizen) and Job Relations. At one arsenal in NJ, nearly 30 million dollars in cost savings were realized.

For more statistics on the results of this program. I suggest you visit my free content site regarding TWI.

http://www.trainingwithinindustry.net

Here you will find the final report from 1945, along with a truckload of other materials. The final report provides the justification for the 400 or so staff and trainers hired on to the government during the war. Perhaps the materials here will give you some ideas as to how to go about justifying a TtT program in your plant.

Good luck!

Bryan Lund

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posted at 7/24/2008 12:17 PM EDT
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I would be inclined to list the pros and cons and have the decision makers ponder what they are willing to invest in.

Some benefits of having skilled in-house trainers are reduced cost, improved availability, they are already "enculturated", sometimes they are more credible (but sometimes not...), it could improve the job satisfaction of the trainer, I think it could promote teamwork to have a visible "go to" person on site, etc.

Some cons are that the trainer may take new skills and leave the organization (it happens!), usually professional trainers are better at delivery, there may be political or cultural issues that interfere with having your audience receptive to the content, you may not have qualified trainers or they may not be interested in this responsibility.

I'm sure you can think of other pros and cons. Have your stakeholders discuss them and then suggest a project to pilot this concept. Results of training aren't always visible, choose a topic that is critical to your strategic plan but expensive to outsource, that will maximise the potential that you will see changes.

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