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The author obviously has not had good experiences with unions and, to be sure, they are far from perfect. However there is a reason why they are over-focused on employee security issues to the exclusi
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posted at 12/12/2000 7:31 AM EST
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The author obviously has not had good experiences with unions and, to be sure, they are far from perfect. However there is a reason why they are over-focused on employee security issues to the exclusion of just about everything else. The reason is this - THE AMERICAN EMPLOYER DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE AMERICAN EMPLOYEE. There, that just about covers it. For the record I am not a union worker. I am a management level professional (with a conscience). |
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posted at 12/20/2000 4:22 AM EST
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First: 7/11/2000 Last: 8/15/2001 |
It appears that we have opposing ends of the spectrum here. Maybe it should be acknowledged that this is the case and the two extremes are not the only scenario or situation out there. There are cases in point for both views. HOWEVER> there are also plenty in the middle where a good working relation ship exists between the unions and management and they work effectively together to achieve organizational goals while ensuring worker safety. I have been involved in organizations that have been on opposing ends of the spectrums and one that was equally balanced. Communication is key. Open mindedness critical, empathy essential, good will all enduring. Maybe everyone involved should begin first by looking in the mirror.
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posted at 12/20/2000 5:21 PM EST
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In reply to all 3 responces...let me first qualify myself.
I have been for 10 years and am currently a union steward. I completed my undergraduate degree 2 years ago with a 3.95 and a concentrate in HR. I passed the SHRM-PHR as a student member. I am working on my MBA. That's right todays union workers are educated. To ad balance to both sides let me say that it is not a pure fact that "The American Employer does not give a damn....." they do know who accomplishes the work for them, by the same token, due to human nature, like the employee they are going to attempt to get away with doing as little as possible. To the employer who believes his benefits and compensation is good, I guess your employees don't share your your generious perspective of your good nature. Apparently others are willing to take care of them better than you are. Also let me quote a individual from a conference I attended, she held a doctorate in HR and is SPHR, "If an organization has a union, or is being threatened with unionazation, the organization probably deserves it." There's extremes on both ends, but the most driving subject I find as a steward, and the issue I win 95% of grievences on is, FAIR AND EQUIL TREATMENT OF EMPLOYEES. This is covered by the Fair Labors Standard Act by the way, you don't need a CBA to enforce it. So employers a word to the wise, stop favoring suck ups they do not really produce anymore then anyone else, you just like haveing your boots licked. Try treating all employees the same, they all really do want to do a good job and receive an occasional pat on the back. |
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posted at 1/2/2001 8:24 AM EST
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First: 1/2/2001 Last: 6/22/2001 |
The issue isn't one being good and one being bad. As a manager that has worked with unions, I find that the integrity level of employees is challenged as employees lie and are protected for lying.
That doesn't mean that all management has been honest, either. However, the biggest challenge seems to be that you can not reward individuals based on their work ethic. And I know first hand of times employees are told to slow down because they are getting too much done. The company is the enemy. How can we compete? |
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posted at 2/2/2001 6:13 PM EST
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First: 9/30/2000 Last: 8/19/2011 |
Union, non-union. One company - another company. It's all about how we work together, you can't generalize about union and management.
I've worked in a government unionized environment that was terrible. No respect was shown by either party. Yet still the majority of the workers put in an honest day's work. I've never been part of a union. I've worked with management teams that do abuse, neglect, whatever. I now work for a private company with 100 unionized employees (in a manufacturing environment). Like anything else, there's the 80/20 rule. 80% of these people are very dedicated, hard working employees. 80% of the management team really do care about how we do things and how we can best benefit the workers. Now, if we can only get rid of the 20% in each cagetory... Quit being so synical. |
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